Need an explanation? Thought you might and here you go: "Hyperbolic Crochet is the name given to applying a mathematical principle to crochet patterns. A hyperbolic plane expands exponentially from any point on its surface, always curving away from itself. Hyperbolic growth gives rise to the ruffled shapes of coral, kelp, and sea anemone. You can easily crochet a hyperbolic surface by increasing at a constant rate throughout the piece. Crocheting a reef is a great opportunity to try different yarns and stitches. The variety of textures and shapes will inspire you to expand your crochet boundaries." (quoted from Lionbrand)
Thanks to everyone who sent this in...yikes, just what level has Lionbrand sunk to with this one? Bottom of the ocean low? Not sure you can get much lower than that.
It's an interesting math lesson. But . . .
ReplyDeleteEww!
Maybe we can use crochet to fix the Great Barrier Reef. At least then people wouldn't have to look at it directly.
what a waste of what looks like some nice yarn. Might be good for your crappiest yarn remnants--but even then, why? Stick it in your aquarium?
ReplyDeleteThat, or mimicking the stuff I need to clean out of my fridge that's causing a God-awful smell in that part of the house. . .
ReplyDeleteI don't think Lionbrand is responsible for this one.
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Well I have to disagree with you guys on this one. It's pretty much the basis for my crochet work... sigh. Ahh well. You can't win 'em all.
ReplyDeleteActually... as a teacher, I would do almost anything to pique the interest of my students, and I've even used yarn to do that with kindergarteners. So, although I don't find it pleasing to the eye, I *do* find it interesting. Count this as a negative cringe? ;-)
ReplyDeleteI don't think the concept is a bad one, but that happens to be a pretty fugly implementation.
ReplyDeleteLet us not confuse science and fashion. You wouldn't wear a model of the solar system on your head or an anatomical dummy on a pendant around your neck. I wouldn't, anyway. But that doesn't mean you couldn't put these little crochet-fungi on the classroom windowsill next to the solar system and the dummy to collect dust for the next twenty years unitl it's offered to befuddled PTA members at the school rummage sale for 25 cents and is finally tossed into the trash.
ReplyDeletei love the lion brand newsletter... it's filled with gems like this that make me go WTF? and then laugh my ass off.
ReplyDeletei think crocheted coral is cool... but i've seen real coral.. it's not khaki, it's breathtaking colors, mostly neon... it's just when you try to photograph it that it comes out khaki... maybe that's what happened when lion brand took pics of their crocheted coral?
There's a fungus among us!
ReplyDeleteTo Jake: ouch, my head hurts! No wonder math was no fun in school.
ReplyDeleteI'm with Liz on this...
ReplyDeleteCrocheted coral - pretty cool idea (but I went to a marine biology school as an undergrad)
Crocheted coral in khaki? - a big WTF there. The other online photos of the crocheted coral are vibrant and fun. Would be a great educational tool in the classroom or at an aquarium.
Well I guess I can see how some people dig this, but this has got to be a very speciallized thing.
ReplyDeleteI think that for the most part, this is pointless. I mean, talking about it is one thing, but actually doing it is another.
We get the idea. We're not children in need of hands-on learning experience to understand the concept.
It's kind of like the knit Ferrari or Christmas scene...only they know it's true purpose....SIGH
ReplyDeleteThis is actually part of a knitting and crochet project from the Institute for Figuring. They are actually creating a coral reef in yarn. They didn't say why, but I think they're just attempting to express a mathematical principle in a concrete fashion. Didn't say I like it, but that's what it's for.
ReplyDeleteI still think it's the mate of the squid hat.
ReplyDeleteI actually like these.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Jake. This was a brilliant idea, to use crochet to model a hyperbolic plane, an excellent example of the rising influence of women in mathematics , not to mention a tribute to the needle arts. Think about it: a skill that was once viewed as a trivial pastime of “the weaker sex” is now used to understand a mathematical theory that is applied in the solution of real world problems of many sorts. Whether you like the idea of crocheting a reef or not, the REAL ISSUE here is that Lion Brand ripped off Daina Taimina’s idea. When Lion Brand first posted the reef pattern on their website, it read as though someone at Lion Brand had come up with the idea of crocheting a hyperbolic plane (obviously one of their staff of experts versed in non-Euclidean geometry). There was no mention of Dr. Taimina or the Institute for Figuring (where the reef idea originated). So I wrote an email to the Institute for Figuring (and I wouldn’t be surprised if others did the same) and told them I hoped they were receiving a royalty, or at least some free yarn, from Lion’s use of their idea. About a week later I received a reply from the Institute saying that Lion was “rectifying the omission”. Lion did add information about the Institute for a period of time, but it’s not there now. It really ticks me off when corporations steal the ideas of individuals.
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While I like the LB reef OK, the real one (ok, the real recreated in yarn one!!) is quite amazing. See and read about it here: http://www.theiff.org/reef/index.html
ReplyDelete"Let us not confuse science and fashion." First off... if it weren't for the science, we wouldn't have the fashion. And who says this was made to be worn? Not everything that is crocheted has to be worn. This was clearly an artistic attempt, and I think it's an interesting concept which is used CONSTANTLY in fashion. Though this particular outcome isn't "pretty".
ReplyDeleteHas anyone seen the crazy hats of Anna Voog? They are inspired by sea anemones and such. Very cool. http://www.anacam.com/hats/
My understanding of this hyperbolic crochet coral reef project is that it's about getting people to realise that real coral reefs are dying (or bleaching) & we need to do something about that. The reefs are already damaged by the increase in seawater temperature so far, another few degrees & the crochet reminders will be all we have!
ReplyDeleteNow we wouldn't want that to happen or we (or our mokopuna) will be looking at crochet coral in museums & saying how careless their tipuna were with the planet.
Kia ora
Shouldn't creativity be encouraged? As for copying, why do you think several magazines all feature recipes for chocolate cake in the same month, or numerous shops all put the same style of blouse on display within a few weeks of each other - we're all exposed to the same influences! Lighten up people - nothing suits everyone. Leave some room for crochet enjoyment without harsh critical words.
ReplyDeleteI think that your outlook is very close minded. Incredible freeform crochet has revitalized the art of crochet. This seems to be all 'granny' opinions - as outdated as the granny square.
ReplyDeleteHmm. This is my first visit to whatnottocrochet, and I have to say I was really surprised to see that hyperbolic reef crocheting -- even Lion brand's fungi-tone attempt -- made your list. I find I'm wondering what you think IS a good use of crochet, especially since I find most of the patterns in even the higher-end new books truly fug ugly....
ReplyDeleteWhat do you do with this when it collects dust? Do you throw it in the washer, and take the chance that it *gasps* loses its shape? I really don't see the point of hyperbolic crochet, but whatever sells the yarn. But what a waste. You could use it to make hats for newborn babies in third world countries.
ReplyDeleteA very cool follow up. This is a free display in my local area. Crochet and protest but all in the name of raising awareness, bringing new young needle crafters together and cleaning out the stash of neon yarn and that odd ball of fun fur. You know what I'm talking about!
ReplyDeleteChicago Reader | Our Town: Crocheters Gone Wild By Tasneem Paghdiwala
http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/ourtown/071004/crochet/
Okay, the part of me that likes math finds that description veeeeery insulting.
ReplyDeletei can't think of any purpose for crochet mushrooms.
ReplyDeleteGod, some stuff is just plain - horrible yet hysterically funny!
ReplyDeleteHowever with the hyperbolic stuff.......I like it. And have a look at this if your interested.
http://theiff.org/exhibits/index.html
This really is not about decorating yourself or your house. It's about raising awareness of the destruction of the Reef.
Look at us......we are commenting so we are aware and might think to do something or support a cause that is doing something
Sorry. My inner geek loves this. Maybe you could fault someone for not selecting more realistic yarn colors, but I think this is really fun. I bought an old crochet doily that was obviously created using these mathematical concepts. Not for everyone, or for every occasion, but I think it's very creative and interesting and cool. And Anna Voog is a riot! Great, crazy work.
ReplyDeleteWhat a shame you used such a dull picture to illustrate the project. I have seen the exhibition of the crochet coral reef in London and the colours and textures are stunning. Parts of the 'reef' are made out of plastic bags, magnetic tape and other detritus from the Thames in surprisingly effective ways.
ReplyDeletePeople leaving comments like 'yuk', 'horrible' and 'what's the point' need to get out more and exercise their imagination.
And I now understand hyperbolic geometry!
The exhibition is fantastic and the Crochet Reef is a very good idea. It's about recycling materials and the colours they've used are amazing. Go and see if you can.
ReplyDeleteThe "all white" colorway is just one small section of the exhibit, and the picture you chose actually depicts the problem of "Coral Bleaching Events" caused by the warming of ocean waters. These events used to occur once per decade or so, but now occur nearly annually with 2009's expected to be the largest ever. It indicates stressed corals, sort of canary in the mineshaft style. Also, the "all whites" are a small vignette in this extraordinary colorful and amazing showing, (which is going to the Smilthsonian in 2009, the same Smithsonian that has NEVER mounted an art show previously).
ReplyDeleteThere is way more to this than you gave it credit for-- The Reefs project has actually become an artistic/environmental movement, with community Reef projects springing up all over the world and being added to the show, mounted with Margaret Wertheim's original Reef - from New York, Chicago, Scottsdale, Latvia, London, etc. This project depicts technology, entertainment, and design applied thru the lowest of tech (a crochet hook) paired with higher mathematics -- the patterns are derived from non-Euclidian hyperbolic algorythms. It's totally great!
I agree with Sariella and Liz. What's wrong with exploration and imagination?
ReplyDeleteCrochet doesn't have to have only practical uses - i love the idea that it can be art form. I like hyperbolic crochet. I wish I'd seen the exhibition.
Actually the Hyperbolic Crocheted Coral Reef which has been shown in Chicago, New York, London, Los Angeles and in 2010 in Washington, D.C. (at the Smithsonian!!!!) has brilliant color and masses of reef pieces sewn together. The white/grey/beige pieces are, however, excellent examples of sick and dying coral reef.
ReplyDeleteIt's purpose was to be used for education about coral reef and the consequences of pollution.
ReplyDeleteIt can be considered ART! Art does not need a reason to exist beyond human creativity.
ReplyDeleteYes, you get it.
ReplyDeleteI participated making pieces for the New York City Coral Reef, which was on show at the World Financial Center for several months. If you think about it, traditional flounces and ruffles are hyperbolic crochet and we've been using the technique for a long time. This project involved seeing the work as ART and as a different creative way to use crochet.
ReplyDeleteAs I read through the comments here, I made some replies to previous posters.
This was my first reply: Actually the Hyperbolic Crocheted Coral Reef which has been shown in Chicago, New York, London, Los Angeles and in 2010 in Washington, D.C. (at the Smithsonian!!!!) has brilliant color and masses of reef pieces sewn together. The white/grey/beige pieces are, however, excellent examples of sick and dying coral reef.
I'm in the process of creating a series of panels to hang in my home. It really can be look quite beautiful.
The technique of large numbers of increases row to row has been used for ages to create flounces and ruffles in crochet. Dr. Taimina realized that it was a way to visualize a mathematical concept and she should be remembered for this and thanked for making the connection between "women's work" and science.
ReplyDeleteits absolutely beatiful! perfect.
ReplyDeleteThey make neat cat toys.
ReplyDeletethis is actually a fascinating concept, you should look more into it.
ReplyDeletegranted, this "artists" interpretation of hyperbolic crocheting is pretty poorly executed. However, there are other women who crochet coral reefs for a living. they make these reefs and sell them as a works of art to museums. i think thats a pretty amazing job. just google it, if your interested at all in crocheting at all i think it will interest you. dont give up on hyperbolic crocheting yet! heh
Boring I think would probably describe this image, but crap probably not.
ReplyDeleteIt has been an influential technique amongst fibre artists amongst the world and many large scale installation works have been conducted.